Preferred owner

[rockstar]

Hi. I've been researching goldens for awhile.

I've read quite a few times that goldens love everyone.

My question is quite simple- Do Goldens have a preferred owner?

The last dog I had favored one family member. He was well behaved when this member was gone. The moment the member returned, the dog would go ballistic and ignore everyone and follow this person everywhere.

The dog I had before him, loved anyone. He was content with whoever. If there was only one person home he would like to be in the same room as them, but the moment others returned he was happy and enjoyed anyones presence.


How is the golden in this area? If goldens prefer one person and don't care about other members then I can not adopt one of these dogs in the event the golden favored someone drastically over me. However, if the golden is like my former dog who just loved being with anyone, then i can carry on my search for a breeder or wait for one to turn up in the animal rescue shelter here.


Thankyou!

[goodtim'n]

Goldens are family orienated campanion dogs,---"FAMILY"---, after 20 yrs of this wonderful breed, I have never experienced a one person only preference with them.. My dogs do know the difference of who does different things with them and that fires them up. But to "SNUB" any body within the FAMILY unit, I have not come across, and I doubt that I ever will! :dogbark

[coopersmom04]

my pup is only 9 1/2 weeks old, and he loves everyone, but preferres me, I think. He follows me everywhere! And I mean e-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e. Sometimes I sit here in the evening, and pup is sleeping by my feet and I am dying of thirst but I don't want to get up, because that would mean that Cooper wakes up to follow me into the kitchen, just to return again a minute later. Makes me feel bad, you know? He never follows anybody else around like this. Earlier, I was in my bedroom watching TV, and he was in there with me. The kids wanted to play with him and tried numerous times to take him out in the living room, but he always came back to be with me! When I go to the bathroom and make him sit outside the closed door (can't take him inside as he takes the entire roll of toilet paper off the wall), he barks, whines, and scratches the door. When I come back out, he acts like he hasn't seen me in a month. :laugh2

[angenbear]

I think if everyone spends time alone with a golden, a golden will love everyone and not favor one over the other. If the golden mostly see one member, then chances are the golden will be attatched to the person that the pup spends more time with. It also varies with the dog, not really from a breed of dog. I will have to say, when I had my bf over for the weekend, Bear was all over him, he would mostly follow him than me. I wonder who would he pick if we both called him at the same time hehe. But when he left, Bear was cool with it and didn't mope around. I think it was new for him to have someone to play with other than me.

[goodtim'n]

CoopersMom04------Gotta Love Ya!!!!!!!!! :) Now a lot of us has been around long enough to know,-----YOU DON'T SHARE VERY WELLL!!!!! :laugh2 (you know I'm only KIDDIN) I'm sooo glad you have that special bond with cooper!!! banana

[coopersmom04]

CoopersMom04------Gotta Love Ya!!!!!!!!! :) Now a lot of us has been around long enough to know,-----YOU DON'T SHARE VERY WELLL!!!!! :laugh2 (you know I'm only KIDDIN) I'm sooo glad you have that special bond with cooper!!! banana

:laugh2 Ok, I admit it...I don't like to share! I seriously think it's because I know when Cooper needs his space. The kids constantly tug at him and want to play with him, even when he's sleeping. I always tell them to give him his space and let him sleep when he wants, and he'll come to them when he feels like playing. I think he'll come around and get attached to everyone though.

Right now I am glad he's so focused on me though, because I will be the one taking him to the training classes and working with him, and he needs to be focused on me then!

[rockstar]

my pup is only 9 1/2 weeks old, and he loves everyone, but preferres me, I think. He follows me everywhere! And I mean e-v-e-r-y-w-h-e-r-e. Sometimes I sit here in the evening, and pup is sleeping by my feet and I am dying of thirst but I don't want to get up, because that would mean that Cooper wakes up to follow me into the kitchen, just to return again a minute later. Makes me feel bad, you know? He never follows anybody else around like this. Earlier, I was in my bedroom watching TV, and he was in there with me. The kids wanted to play with him and tried numerous times to take him out in the living room, but he always came back to be with me! When I go to the bathroom and make him sit outside the closed door (can't take him inside as he takes the entire roll of toilet paper off the wall), he barks, whines, and scratches the door. When I come back out, he acts like he hasn't seen me in a month. :laugh2LOL!

See that's how my previous (mixed) dog behaved. It was bad, because the person he took a liking to THAT much, could not stand the dog doing that. I was a bit--er extremely jealous. But no matter how many times I took this dog and tried to get him to play ball with me, if his "preffered human" was home..this dog would scratch at the door, bark, whine, etc etc until he was united with her.

I understand that some breeds, that is a very common behaviour. Like with the akita. The only thing that is keeping me from getting a dog is the fear it would turn out this way. If I was the preferred person I personally would love it, but it would be no guarantee.

Do you have any idea why your golden may yearn for you so much? Do your other family members ignore him or her?

My first dog, the one who loved anyone, that was not a trait with him.

From what I read about goldens it doesn't appear to be a trait but I just am anxious to read owner opinions. I did read on this board about a lady who's golden would follow her everywhere (infact it could have been a post by you) but my question was, "I wonder..was anyone else home?"

Thanks for your input.

[rockstar]

I think if everyone spends time alone with a golden, a golden will love everyone and not favor one over the other. If the golden mostly see one member, then chances are the golden will be attatched to the person that the pup spends more time with. It also varies with the dog, not really from a breed of dog.
I see.


Have you had any experience in that area?


I remember my first dog would greet everyone in accordance with how much that person was 'happy' to see him. After the greeting session was over, this dog would do whatever. He'd sometimes lay and just watch everyone. usually I would call him into my room, he would come with no problem and just lay down with me while I did what I had to do. That I am ok with, and I loved. He was friendly.

My more recent dog. Who we treated the same as the above dog... Well.... Similar to the lady I just replied to. He'd greet everyone, then if I tried to bring him in my room with me, he'd whine, bark, etc etc until I let him go back with the other person whom he so dearly loved :204

Sorry I don't mean to sound repetitive I just want to make sure I am being clear.

Whether I adopt or purchase a puppy..... Are there some things I could do to ensure that would not happen??

What in the world would make a "family dog" such as a golden, act in a manner like the one-man-dog I just told you about? Could it be its preferred owner was the only one paying it any attention, letting it out to relieve itself, grooming it, teaching it the tricks, etc

Please don't get me wrong. It probably sounds like I didn't take care of the other dog or something. I did. I'd brush, feed, play, take for walks. Yet he just preferred another :434

I always thought goldens were beautiful, and when I read they loved everyone I thought, "Hey! Maybe I won't have any problems with a 'preferred owner' but I better ask!"

[goodtim'n]

I feel I must read between the lines in your post. WHO else is this dog going to be housed with???? You sound very anxious, this decision of who bonds to who also depends on the enviroment, which we know nothing about. This breed blends very well in homes, Are talking about a puppy, an older dog, a problmatic dog. Not enough info from you as of yet. You are mentioning about getting a dog from the shelter. If you go that route, then spend as much time as possible with the dog in the shelter to make sure it is a compatable situation for both of you. If you are getting a pup, do you have the time to tend to a pup through out the day. Our domesticated dogs are needy, do to us, and they will respond to whom ever fills those needs. Still waiting to hear a bit more info. about this from you.

[rockstar]

Sorry I didn't see this earlier I will have to say, when I had my bf over for the weekend, Bear was all over him, he would mostly follow him than me. I wonder who would he pick if we both called him at the same time hehe. But when he left, Bear was cool with it and didn't mope around. I think it was new for him to have someone to play with other than me.

Let me ask you this- While your bf was over..did Bear ignore you???

If your boyfriend(bestfriend?)..let's say....went into the bathroom..Would Bear whine and scratch at the door and ignore anything you tried to do with him?


Sorry I don't mean to flood you with questions. However, I will be grateful if you could reply.

[goodtim'n]

rockstar::I posted about the same time you did, could you respond so that we all have more info. THANKS :)

[coopersmom04]

LOL!

Do you have any idea why your golden may yearn for you so much? Do your other family members ignore him or her?

My first dog, the one who loved anyone, that was not a trait with him.

From what I read about goldens it doesn't appear to be a trait but I just am anxious to read owner opinions. I did read on this board about a lady who's golden would follow her everywhere (infact it could have been a post by you) but my question was, "I wonder..was anyone else home?"

Thanks for your input.

I'm really not sure. I am the one who feeds him most of the time, I am always talking to him (maybe I'm weird,but I talk to my pets, dogs esp. almost as much as I talk to my kids). I play with him, but also know when he needs his space and let him have it. I don't force him to do anything. Maybe it helped that I was close to him on the ride home (2 hours), and I was just the first person he bonded with during that time. I really don't know...LOL.

And btw...yes, there are other people home 99% of the time, he's just really gotten attached to me.

[rockstar]

WHO else is this dog going to be housed with????
Let's see...... 5 People live in my household.

Are talking about a puppy, an older dog, a problmatic dog.

?
Are you referring to the 2 dogs I mentioned..or the dog I intend to get?

You are mentioning about getting a dog from the shelter.

Possibly, yes. Although we have one major (and i believe one very small) shelter here in this state. So there's a good chance I will not go that route as well. Time will tell.

If you are getting a pup, do you have the time to tend to a pup through out the day.
lol Of course. This is not the first time I would have a dog.

I know sometimes people get animals on a whim, but I think I mentioned I have been researching this specific breed for months now. Other breeds, much longer.

I almost went with the rare breed, Alaskan Klee Kai, only to find out one of their traits was- "This breed usually prefers one person over the others" If it prefered me- I'd be in heaven.

I really didn't want to take the chance of bringing that breed into my house only for it to, for some reason, attach itself onto another. I guess I would be taking that chance bringing any dog into my home... however, like i've read numerous times..the goldens are friendly with anyone.

I just read someone elses post about her husband wanting a dog to attach to him as their dog attaches to her, the wife. I am in the exact same position.


I don't want to tell others to ignore the dog so it would come to me. :laugh2 no no no. But I also don't want someone to try and play with the dog, only for the dog to ignore and go scratch on the door for someone else. Thus ignoring everyone.


My first dog who passed away did NOT do that ever. I don't know what made my second doggy act like such a brat. However, he was a mixed dog who was mixed with a few things- 2 of which were akita and chow chow...akitas/chows are a one man dog- that could have very well explained it. (im not going to get into how i obtained this dog..but let's just say... there was no choosing involved)

[rockstar]

I'm really not sure. I am the one who feeds him most of the time, I am always talking to him (maybe I'm weird,but I talk to my pets, dogs esp. almost as much as I talk to my kids). I play with him, but also know when he needs his space and let him have it. I don't force him to do anything. Maybe it helped that I was close to him on the ride home (2 hours), and I was just the first person he bonded with during that time. I really don't know...LOL.

And btw...yes, there are other people home 99% of the time, he's just really gotten attached to me.
Lol thanks!

Well this is what I said, "If we ever get another dog.. No one say anything on the ride home... I am going to sit by her, talk to her,etc etc. When we get home..no one feed her.. I will set a time to do that" I am going to carry that one out too lol. I want to be the sole caretaker.

I figured it may be like a duck sort of thing.

[goodtim'n]

Thanks for the info. I cannot tell you that this breed of dog is right for you. You are right on asking questions. I can say that this breed does blend well, shares it's self well, and loves any and all people in/out of the home. This might very well be the breed for you. Read the replies in NEGATIVE and POSITIVE reasons of the GOLDEN, that may be of some help. These dogs are a great lifelong friend. I have yet seen one totally just bond with only one person for everything. The really the only problem the breed has is it's demand for attention, You must own a great petting arm and hand and have plenty of room on ALL of the furniture and a vehicle Large enough for them to go everywhere (which they think they should) Plus an endless supply of tennis balls. GOOD LUCK!!!! :dogbark

[rockstar]

Thanks for the info. I cannot tell you that this breed of dog is right for you. You are right on asking questions. I can say that this breed does blend well, shares it's self well, and loves any and all people in/out of the home. This might very well be the breed for you. Read the replies in NEGATIVE and POSITIVE reasons of the GOLDEN, that may be of some help. These dogs are a great lifelong friend. I have yet seen one totally just bond with only one person for everything. The really the only problem the breed has is it's demand for attention, You must own a great petting arm and hand and have plenty of room on ALL of the furniture and a vehicle Large enough for them to go everywhere (which they think they should) Plus an endless supply of tennis balls. GOOD LUCK!!!! :dogbark
Hi.. I've read those 2 threads ;) Good reads.

And im serious when I say ive been researching this breed for quite some time. The only question I was left with was what I brought onto this board.


A major reason I want a golden is this- Fetch, water, companionship.

I've always wanted a dog who I could take to the beach (which is across the street from my house) with me. And one who i could play fetch with. The golden seems to be a perfect fit for that. As do flat-coated retrievers. But I personally think goldens are beautiful.


Thanks for your comments.

[coopersmom04]

for what it's worth, I have heard that female GR are more attached to one person whereas males are more family oriented. Now, I don't know if that ONE person would be YOU. :laugh2 We have a male and so far he's more attached to me, but he's still young, so that may change. :confused:

All I can say is, spend lots of one on one time with your pup, praise him lots, talk in an upbeat voice, give him treats, and maybe attend obedience class together. That should at least get you started on a nice bond :)

[goodtim'n]

Rockstar::::Noooo, not a flat coated retriever, read the thread in Other Animal Friends. It's still a new one. If you have to choose the golden is going to muchhh more to your life style... :dogbark

[rockstar]

Rockstar::::Noooo, not a flat coated retriever, read the thread in Other Animal Friends. It's still a new one. If you have to choose the golden is going to muchhh more to your life style... :dogbarkAlrighty I'm going to check it out now. lol

Imo Flat coated retrievers are kind of ugly. (NO offense to anyone who owns one!)

I have a cat who, when you pet it, your hand is coated with hair- I heard this is true with the flat-coat.

All sites/golden owners won't hesitate to tell you that goldens do shed. My question is, is it all over your hand when you pet them?


And yeah I think a golden would accomodate my lifestyle very well. There's a field within walking distance from my house (neighborhood field) where i will take him/her to play. I couldn't begin to tell you how many times I tried to take my dog up there to play 'fetch' with me...that dog would run a few feet and lay down lol. There's also beach down the street from me where s/he can play which is great because, this may sound phony but..i've always wanted a dog who could run down the beach and play fetch with me :485

[rockstar]

for what it's worth, I have heard that female GR are more attached to one person whereas males are more family oriented. Now, I don't know if that ONE person would be YOU. :laugh2 We have a male and so far he's more attached to me, but he's still young, so that may change. :confused:

All I can say is, spend lots of one on one time with your pup, praise him lots, talk in an upbeat voice, give him treats, and maybe attend obedience class together. That should at least get you started on a nice bond :) lol Well I hope it's me! I don't know if this is mean- but is it wrong of me and bad for the puppy for me to tell others to kind of 'ignore' him/her so the puppy will see me more clearly?

I don't mean I would rob the puppy of socialization- NOT at all! My other dog(the one who was attached to one person) well..the lady he was attached to..shed take him walking every morning. Now..that MAY of been why he got attached to her, because they'd spend the morning together. However, 12-bedtime..i spent with him. So either he got attached from the morning walks, OR because she was the first one to see him. :204 I really want to tell everyone to just leave her(future golden if i get one) alone. They can pet her and such. But I dont want them taking her for walks, feeding her, spending long periods with her.

Playtime is good. But I want her to see that IM the one who she should depend on. Is this a bad route to take??

I know they are family dogs, im not trying to twist her into a one-man dog at all! but in the event, like some of you, the puppy becomes dependent on someone, i need that someone to be me. Now like you said, possibly when it gets older it will open up more and become more of a 'everyone' dog. Maybe its just like that because its a little puppy. similar to a baby needing that special someone(s)

:054


And yes, I am definitely going to take him/her(i had my heart set on a female..but now that you mentioned that...hmm) to an obedience class.

I expect this dog to be well behaved. :woofpup

[goodtim'n]

Go to the forum Open Discussion and look under BLACK I posted!!! Yes they also shedd on your hands. rofl3

[rockstar]

Go to the forum Open Discussion and look under BLACK I posted!!! Yes they also shedd on your hands. rofl3
:( A LOT?


There are no goldens in my area at all. (only pitbulls)

However this lady who used to live around me years ago had a red colored golden. I remember petting it once. It's only vaguely I remember this...but when I was done there wasn't a ton of hair on my hands. Atleast nowhere close to when I pet my cat.

[goodtim'n]

Not to turn you off from Goldens, but another really great breed of retrievers is the Chesapeake bays, Since you are window shopping check them out. Realy neat dogs. Very much typical of the goldens with a little more of the Lab. I own both goldens and lab, but I'm blessed to own a very kind, easy going lab, very old school type. The Chessy's are something to check into!!!! Labrador's shed worst than Goldens.

[rockstar]

Labrador's shed worst than Goldens.
Are you serious? My friend owns a lab and his shedding isn't too bad. Well I guess when you own a cat that sheds beyond profusely like mine does....everything else seems minimal.


The chesapeake bay retriever i know i've looked at those before....i remember the name clearly. I just can't remember what they look like so I'm going to run a quick search again.


Thanks

[goodtim'n]

Chessy's are brown-liver in color stocky, and with a tight wave to the upper body coat. Do you have a specific sex in mind? I prefer females, they always seem to be more focused than the males.. Are you going to alter your dog? (spay/neuter) If done at the right age it can be quit a benefit to the mind set!!!

[rockstar]

I plan on getting a female. My reasons may be a bit stupid- but hey.


Yes definitely will get my dog fixed. No doubt about that.


I was just reading a website on goldens and this guy said "other than appearance, there should not be any personality differences between male and female goldens. " Other than their individual personality of course.

Was he referring to height, or the face?


I know in some breeds the males face looks a bit more "masculine"

Well hmm. Chesapeake bay retriever..... I'll pass. No offense, I dont mean to sound shallow but I prefer a dog I find attractive. Another breed i'm looking into is the samoyed or standard sized eskimo dog.

They both(golden vs samoyed) have their positives and negatives. The only thing that turns me off about the goldens is excessive shedding. Not that I wont beable to handle it but you know. Samoyeds only blow their coats twice a year. But goldens have all of these other aspects that I love and want in a dog. :xmass2

[goodtim'n]

Sir Rockstar::: You are talking to a 20+ owner-operator dog groomer and unless you are ready to totally and completly maintain a coat then stay away from the sammy's, they look nice and white and carefree, this is a coat that is called a triple coat. It is not an easy coat at all to deal with. It gets tight and thick and what can I say it NEEDS a lot of care. I have been established in the grooming world for a long time and I stay away from triple coated breeds. A lot of work and mostly the owners balk at the cost of paying a dog groomer. The Eskimo dog is just a smaller version of the sammy's yet highly intellegent, once called and know as the original circus dog, they also have a high maintance coat. Please don't say the chessy's aren't attractive, they just may not carry the fancy looking coat as the goldens. Good choice on the sex!!! (my oponion) I prefer a female, but my males have always been just as nice. But I do a lot of variables with my dogs. You are so on the right track. Sniffing evey option out. This has been a very good discussion, others will have there input as well. Listen and learn. :dogbark

[rockstar]

Sorry for calling them unnattractive

Thats why im so thankful every breed can look so different though.




Well, im pretty used to the grooming bills and daily grooming- I owned a Bichon Frise.

Now they certaintly do not have a tripple coat, but they weren't fun and games. lol And unfortunately, my dog really wasn't fun and games. He was a couch potato.


I have no problem with brushing animals. I had to baby sit my friends Eskie for a week. However theirs was a toy(possibly miniature)..i can't stand small dogs. Bichons are small too. This time im determined to get a larger breed. I love big dogs.


But thanks for the warning. lol Dang, and the websites said they don't need to be brushed EVERY day.

[rockstar]

Have you heard of this breed yet?

alaskan klee kai ("mini husky")

http://www.kleekai.net/brutus/brutus.jpg

We're still deciding if we really want a larger breed (i do!)

or a smaller one.


If we go with larger it will more than likely be the golden.

If we go with a smaller breed it will more than likely be an AKK.

Goldens seem much more fun than the AKK. But I plan on making a list of the goods and bads of both breeds then thinking about it for awhile. Afterall this dog is going to be with me for a long time.

One thing that scares me about a larger breed is...it's death.

When my bichon passed away it was hard, but he was also about 11 inches high. I dont know if that makes sense to you all but..i guess it was just easier to accept the death..I dont know how to explain it so nevermind. But I could never imagine waking up and finding my large pet dead....I think that would be a bit too overwhelming for me. It's one thing to of had a small dog in your home, and feel emptiness. but somethnig a goldens size..and suddenly not there? Not to sound like a sissy, but I get attached to my animals good.

I guess I shouldn't look at the end though..that's just part of life.

[goodtim'n]

You have been a pleasure to bark with. I feel you would be a very good Golden retriever owner. They are a large breed and can exceed the 100lb. mark, not so much the females. But the female I lost 4yrs ago, which was the great-grandmother to my 5 yr.old male, was 101lbs Yes a little overweight, but not by much, It was just the bloodlines, the average females is about 75 lbs. give or take. which is still quite a dog. Well have Fun with your search. :dogbark

[goodtim'n]

How COOL::::: I just recently was informed of this breed/size!! A friend of mine lives in Fairbanks Alaska and runs a kennel and sled teams and sent me a bunch of lit. on them , I fell in love,, I own a training facility and all I saw was a very athletic, structural sound fast, moving machine, I'm sorry but I am an obed/agility trainer and my eye always looks to that. But we have to always remember what the breed was bred for and if we can accomidate them. I was really surprised to see you post a pic of them.....They are a high energy dog that need to be active most of the time, that is what I am learning about them. I love learning about new breeds. Yet this breed hasn't been stepped on as of yet and to my knowledge. Maybe a possiblity for you!!!

[rockstar]

How COOL::::: I just recently was informed of this breed/size!! A friend of mine lives in Fairbanks Alaska and runs a kennel and sled teams and sent me a bunch of lit. on them , I fell in love,, I own a training facility and all I saw was a very athletic, structural sound fast, moving machine, I'm sorry but I am an obed/agility trainer and my eye always looks to that. But we have to always remember what the breed was bred for and if we can accomidate them. I was really surprised to see you post a pic of them.....They are a high energy dog that need to be active most of the time, that is what I am learning about them. I love learning about new breeds. Yet this breed hasn't been stepped on as of yet and to my knowledge. Maybe a possiblity for you!!!
They seem like a neat breed.

Some of them are very attractive. But it's not guarantee what size you will get or what yours will look like - its a surprise.

Its my understanding that the AKKs are very different than the husky. Huskies will run off, AKKs will not. AkKs are pack-oriented like the husky though.

And yes, they have a good amount of energy which i need in a dog. however the AKKs are content in even apartments. They are well-mannered inside and will sit with you to watch tv, but when you want to play- there they are.


the breeders i've met are all really nice (except a few). however this breed is pricy. one breeder charges outrageous amounts (2,000 PET QUALITY!) while others only 1,100.(pet quality)

[rockstar]

You have been a pleasure to bark with.
lol thanks. thanks for your time too!

I feel you would be a very good Golden retriever owner. :woofpup i'm eager to see which we decide on.

But the female I lost 4yrs ago :(

have Fun with your search. :dogbark
thanks
cheerleade

[goodtim'n]

Rockstar::::we will talk later maybe in a pm, I don't know what time it is in part of the world but it is 5 hrs. till my get up and go time and I got so carried away with our great discussion that I lost all track of time. Many others will also have their input as well. Till later. happy breed hunting, After I saw those last pics. you've pretty well convinced me of your research you are doing, it's more than the average dog owner would do!!! :dogbark

[SuGaR]

IMHO, if you wanna consider AKK, I think you should settle for a husky instead. AKK is pretty rare where I come from, but there is this one breeder and we've been to see the puppies. Frankly, I didn't like what I saw. Huskies are definitely more beautiful, at least to me :)

My female golden is 8 mths old, and she is kind of more attached to me, although she loves everyone! She follows me around more often too, but when I'm not around, she'll settle for my hubby as well ;) He's real jealous, because we both do the feeding and clearing of her pee tray, but I'm the one who does her grooming, and I take time with that, so that's more quality bonding time :D

[rockstar]

IMHO, if you wanna consider AKK, I think you should settle for a husky instead. AKK is pretty rare where I come from, but there is this one breeder and we've been to see the puppies. Frankly, I didn't like what I saw. Huskies are definitely more beautiful, at least to me :)
Huskies are more beautiful but i can not go for looks alone at all.

Huskies are NOT for me. they dig, and they run away.

i can't have that. AKKs will not run away, they love being with their owners.

SOME AKKs are really good looking..others are very ugly. The dogs photo i posted is "brutus" and he is for adoption and one of the prettiest (and biggest) AKKs ive ever seen. I would loooove to take him in but i can not get a dog until a few more months.

I feel like im missing a great opportunity if we go for a smaller breed but oh well.

[rockstar]

ps- What breeder did you go to, if you don't mind me asking?

I've been looking online at a few breeders...that's all there is though..a few. the species is limited.


and the dog(s?) in your photos is(are? lol) pretty! i love that color

[rockstar]

Rockstar::::we will talk later maybe in a pm, I don't know what time it is in part of the world but it is 5 hrs. till my get up and go time and I got so carried away with our great discussion that I lost all track of time. Many others will also have their input as well. Till later. happy breed hunting, After I saw those last pics. you've pretty well convinced me of your research you are doing, it's more than the average dog owner would do!!! :dogbark
Thanks and sorry for sidetracking you :094

[Goldenglittergirl]

Huskies are more beautiful but i can not go for looks alone at all.

Huskies are NOT for me. they dig, and they run away.

i can't have that. AKKs will not run away, they love being with their owners.
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FYI-ALL dogs dig, YES even GOLDENS!! ANY dog will run away if you don't keep them properly contained.

Any dog you get needs to go to obedience to learn basic commands so you can control the dog.

It doesn't depend on the breed if the dog will run away or not, it depends on the owner!!

I think you have a distored perception on how a dog should act; any dog is trainable and if a dog fails its usually due to the dog's owner.

[goodtim'n]

Good afternoon rockstar. You sure have a lot to think about, but at least it is good thinking, "DOGS"!!!!Next month Febuary 15th-16th the Westminster Dog Show is on T.V. That should also be fun for you to watch with the large breeds. But I think you would really be the happiest with a Golden. You sure do seem to do your homework. Where is it that you are from.

[rockstar]

It doesn't depend on the breed if the dog will run away or not, it depends on the owner!!

I think you have a distored perception on how a dog should act; any dog is trainable and if a dog fails its usually due to the dog's owner.I don't think I have a distorted perception at all.

Have you researched Huskys? Have you talked to Husky breeders? I have.

You can teach your dog the 'come' command. there may be a few exceptions, but the husky breed will ignore and run off. Huskys are a BREED which MUST be kept on a leash AT ALL TIMES. Or, you will not see him or her again.



AKKs are a breed who are very wary of strangers- huskys are not.

Im not saying that only huskys run away. Any dog can- i'm well aware of that. But even if as a puppy you try and teach your husky to follow you off lead, or come when you say "come" they are stubborn, they are a breed bred to run. and run they will do..

[Goldenglittergirl]

Have you researched Huskys? Have you talked to Husky breeders? I have.

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Yep, actually my Mom used to show Huskies and Mals, and our Husky had awesome recall!!

Doesn't matter the breed what matters is the HANDLER, period, end of story!

YOU are responsible for your dog, not every breed lives up to what you read or hear from Joe Blow down the street!

[rockstar]

Good afternoon rockstar. You sure have a lot to think about, but at least it is good thinking, "DOGS"!!!!Next month Febuary 15th-16th the Westminster Dog Show is on T.V. That should also be fun for you to watch with the large breeds. But I think you would really be the happiest with a Golden. You sure do seem to do your homework. Where is it that you are from.
hi!

I was actually watching animal planet last week I think it was, they had a live dog show on. They're fun to watch just to see the different breeds.


i have researched quite a bit of breeds and its narrowed down to basically golden or AKK. i talked to the lady who has put Brutus up for adoption. but it's still a decision to be made. i have to take everything into account. and since brutus is already almost 2 years old... I need to find out if he likes water and to play since that's what i want. i guess i can count on a golden to enjoy a game of fetch. so of course each breed has their goods and their bads. am i prepared to take care of a puppy? yes. but there are advantages of an older dog...he or she is already potty trained. (in this case)


i live in hawaii..and because of that..we dont have any specific animal shelters. like on the mainland you can have "Golden retriever rescue of northern california" for instance. hawaii we just have one pound usually with mixed breeds inside. so if i get a golden it will more than likely be a puppy.

[goodtim'n]

Where abouts in Hawaii? I got family there!!! What seems to be the breed of choice in Hawaii. You most definetly have the water for this breed, and the sharks (ha-ha) I live in the state of Washington.

[rockstar]

Yep, actually my Mom used to show Huskies and Mals, and our Husky had awesome recall!!

Doesn't matter the breed what matters is the HANDLER, period, end of story!

YOU are responsible for your dog, not every breed lives up to what you read or hear from Joe Blow down the street!
This is your opinion.

Many husky owners/breeders/trainers will tell you they do not come when called each and everytime. Sometimes maybe. But they always make it clear the husky breed MUST be on the chain at all times. Im not trying to start an argument about who is right and who is wrong..but i just cant believe that all of the breeders/husky owners/husky FAQ that stress they run away, were all bad husky handlers.

Of course, everyones opinon slightly differs regarding breeds. Different experiences and such. The husky was created to run..it is in their instinct. just like a golden is created to retrieve.

But the husky just is not for me. I'm not taking the chance of having an escape artist dog run away from me. ....and dig holes in my backyard. : D

[rockstar]

Where abouts in Hawaii? I got family there!!! What seems to be the breed of choice in Hawaii. You most definetly have the water for this breed, and the sharks (ha-ha) I live in the state of Washington.You do? that's cool.

im in oahu..leeward side.



pretty boring here.



im not sure what the breed of choice in hawaii is..i havent really noticed anything. if anything i see a lot of mixed dogs. everyonce in awhile i see a pure bred with a nice family. other than that out here ppl just tie their dogs in the backyard as a "watchdog" i guess. many pit bulls out on my side.

[Goldenglittergirl]

Newsflash==All dogs dig holes, some more then others!

My Lab digs holes all over the yard...

My opinion is that if you have taken ANY dog to obedience, worked a lot with the dog, etc. the dog WILL come when called, including Huskies!

[goodtim'n]

Rockstar::: Does, MILILONI, sound familiar????

[rockstar]

Newsflash==All dogs dig holes, some more then others!

Not all do.

And don't try to get sarcastic with me. I know about dogs, and I'm well aware some dig holes- some do not.

my dogs never have. the huskies around the street do, therefore they are to stay on the sidewalk all day.

Some dogs have it in them to dig holes..other breeds dont.

however, just because one breed is KNOWN for digging, does not mean each do gof that breed digs.

and just because one breed is KNOWN for NOT digging, isnt a guarantee yours won't dig.

Good day

[rockstar]

Rockstar::: Does, MILILONI, sound familiar????
mililani?..lol yah. Is that where your relatives live??

[goodtim'n]

Yes. Why the lol? is something funny? did I miss something. It's my UNCLE and his family?

[rockstar]

no no. im not laughing AT you.

i just kind of always chuckle when im talking to mainlanders and they spell/pronounce it wrong.

or when we have "white people" come down here and i hear them talk..its kind of funny things they say wrong.

not in a rude way at all. just some things that bring a smirk to your face :rolleyes:

[goodtim'n]

It's funny you say "white people" my UNCLE has been there over 20+ yrs. and he looks just like an ISLANDER, and he is married to a true HAWAIIAN and man you should him his TALK THE TALK, of course I have no idea what he is saying (HEEEEE-HEEEEE)

[rockstar]

you can't understand pidgen? lol

on the computer i never use it. but in person i have a habit of saying some things...my in laws are caucasion and will be like, "what?!" lol

[goodtim'n]

I have to remind him that us "WHITIES" don't talk that way (HA-HA)

[rockstar]

lol!


Hmm I think im going to have to throw the dog idea out of the window perhaps.

Im reading the hawaii quarantine laws and um..... it sounds quite hard, unreasonable, and expensive.


http://www.hawaiiag.org/AQS/aqs-checklist-5.pdf

Maybe im just dumb... but it doesnt seem possible that a puppy could easily be shipped to Hawaii.

Well maybe ill get 'lucky' and find a good golden breeder here.

[goodtim'n]

I've shown dogs for many years, and now I have (maybe) a dumb question!!! Do you have sanctioned dog shows in Hawaii? Since I've never ventured to the islands, I was curious!!!

[rockstar]

I used to think we never had any here.. I remember years ago there was a big one that came.

Other than that there's smaller shows i guess put on by local Kennel clubs.

I'm not entirely sure how it all works. But I know there's quite a few. Probably pretty small.

[goodtim'n]

Find Out!!! Go to these shows and sniff it and the owners out. You may find a breeder!!!

[SuGaR]

ps- What breeder did you go to, if you don't mind me asking?

I've been looking online at a few breeders...that's all there is though..a few. the species is limited.


and the dog(s?) in your photos is(are? lol) pretty! i love that color

Yes that's my girl in the photo. Bigger now.... and thank goodness her temperament's calmed down quite a bit. She was quite a monster :D

In my part of the world, there's only 1 breeder (as far as I know). They imported the parents from UK and did their own breeding. It's selling for SGD$5,000. :)

[rockstar]

Yes that's my girl in the photo. Bigger now.... and thank goodness her temperament's calmed down quite a bit. She was quite a monster :D

In my part of the world, there's only 1 breeder (as far as I know). They imported the parents from UK and did their own breeding. It's selling for SGD$5,000. :)
Hi. After i posted that to you i saw your location and was like "whoa i know"

I was browsing online and ran into this dog discussion board in singapore...they were talkin about AKKs being 5,000 there. That's insane.

[SuGaR]

Yup! So you can understand why this breed is not exactly popular in Singapore. ;)