are any of our dogs related???

[2blondebabes]

I have been looking into my puppy's pedigree and although I knew her grandfather was in the Show Dog Hall Of Fame, I didn't realize how many litters he sired. I typed in his name which is Am./Can.CH Asterling's Wild Blue Younder OS SDHF and saw that he has sired several litters which means a ton of puppies. I know my breeder had the semen mailed to her and inseminated her female so I am assuming that after he won all of his titles, they had many requests for his stud services. I think it would be interesting to see how many of our puppies are related. When I did my search, I see his name in kennels all across the United States and even out of the U.S. Check you pedigrees and post if you find his name in your line!!! :003 :003

[Harshy]

Try here:

http://www.k9data.com/

[Harshy]

I think you will find that alot of them will be "related"

Here's Harley's Dad's side:

http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=157239

[Hunnybug]

I agree, I think that a lot of them will have relatives somewhere in their pedigree. Am./Can.CH Asterling's Wild Blue Younder OS SDHF is one of Honey's great-great grandfathers. I am wonderfing if any other dogs here have either of Honey's grandfathers in their pedigree? They are: Ch Amberac Yer Chips R Takin SDHF (#1 golden in U.S.-2001) and Ch. Amberac Ramala Surfurr OS, SDHF (#2 golden in U.S.-'97 & '98) Any one related to them?


Sarah :)
Dichi Hunny Acre Woods, CGC, TDI, TT "Honey"

[Cassidy'sMom]

I do have Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder!! :048 I'm actually really surprised. I almost didn't look at all. I'm thinking: I'm way down here in south Louisiana, what would I possibly have in common? But hey, what do I know. I know I got Cassidy from a show breeder so I guess we all have something in common after all. We're all FUR FAMILY!!!

I actually have quite a few dogs from the "Asterling" line in my pedigree.

Hunnybug: I do have one dog from the same kennel (I think :confused: ) but it's not either that you named. Its Am-Can Ch. Amberac's Asterling Aruba (OS/SDHF) but its like 4 generations back on the pedigree.

[2blondebabes]

Cassidy's mom - COOL!!!! Riley's grandfather on her fathers side is Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder and he is also her great grandfather on her mother's side so we are fur family on both Riley's sides. Nice to meet you!!

[goldenlover]

Thanks for the database link. I found Ralphie's grandfather's full name: O'Flynn's Gold-Rush A Chance (1/19/94), in PA, USA. We met him when we picked out Ralphie. He's a rambunctious puppy-like guy, for being over 10 years old. You'd never know. And he is beautiful. Still waiting for my papers, and all I know about his parents' names is that father was Duff and mother was Angel. Please forgive my terminology here, not yet familiar with proper terms. Perhaps someone here has another relative of Chance's.

[theGoldenPup]

Actually, all of our dogs almost have to be related! Its just a matter of how far back you go...
Blaze isn't related to that dog...but if you go a few further back....and he will be!

GoldenPup

[kinseysmom]

Hi. Am looking at Kinsey's pedigree. I see an Asterling but it's CH Asterling's Just Buster Loose CD..oh wait, there's another Asterling....CH Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster. I don't have the pedigree scanned and downloaded yet. Kinsey has Malagold, Asterling and Whirlwind lines. There's also Pekay, Libra and others. I don't understand all the initials. She is line bred, that much I've figured out. ;)
Her kennel name is Skymeadow's Emerald Isle. That's because she was kelly green when she was born. The placenta was green. Sounds disgusting, doesn't it? :roll2

[kinseysmom]

:o

[2blondebabes]

HI Kinsey's mom! Are you Chris?? I'm Riley' s mom AKA Staci. I guess you found the website. Don't you love it?? :003 :003 :003 :032 :032

[kinseysmom]

Hi....yes and I know. I sent you a "private message" on here last week. Did you not get it? And yes, I love it...thank you. I mentioned to johnwa, the site administrator how much I've learned in such a short time. And Kinsey isn't our first Golden, as you know. Your thread on "relatives" got me studying Kinsey's pedigree all day today. Do you have my home e-mail addy? You probably should. It's easy...it's my last name****.net :)
I've been here all day goofing off. Yes I know...I missed puppy graduation but puppy class was the same night as "24!" ;) How's our Riley?
Next on my agenda here is to read the thread on "tricks" etc. I am teaching Kinsey to close the deck door when she comes in. lol Our other Golden, Maddie, did it and it was the coolest thing. Plus...it saved me the trouble of walking ALL the way over to the door. lol

[HandsomeHobbes]

Hobbes has relatives from the same kennel as Tara. Almost All of the dogs older than Hobbes' grandfather on his mother's side are from the Chrys-Haefen line although none of the same dogs.
:woofpup

[2blondebabes]

Hunnybug: Riley has CH Honor's Bunny Hug in her pedigree. Is that the same line as yours?

[LauraLynn]

Anyone have any of the Laurell dogs in their pedigree?

[GoldenFrost]

Hobbes has relatives from the same kennel as Tara. Almost All of the dogs older than Hobbes' grandfather on his mother's side are from the Chrys-Haefen line although none of the same dogs.
:woofpup
ChrysHaefen line is more Standard...with the block heads.
I would love to find the Field part of her. I want another small one like her

[kinseysmom]

Well...let me look again...because I forget. Okay, yes, I'm old. Knock it off young ones. Kins has Valhalla's Trowsnest Folly,
All sorts of Jolly's from CH Eng Show, also CH Libra Lady Carioca and others, several Asterlings, several Malagolds, several Beaumaris, several Pekays, CH SHow Nortonwood, Whirlwild (or as my breeder says "Whirlys"), Daystars(with all of the storm warnings - lol), Highmark and Shargleam and fabulous CH Kinsale Clipper (Kinsey was LONG ago named Kinsey without any knowledge that it was a family name!!) and then of course..Kinsey is "Skymeadow's Emerald Isle" aka Kinsey!

[Jo Ellen]

Is Rider's dad "Sport" Hearthsides Season Ticket? Or more generally, any of the Hearthside dogs?

[LauraLynn]

Is Rider's dad "Sport" Hearthsides Season Ticket? Or more generally, any of the Hearthside dogs?
YES - how did you know?! Do you happen to have a pic of him?

[kinseysmom]

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[Jo Ellen]

I think I may know of one of the Hearthside dogs -- up in Maine I believe. I'll do some more checking and let you know!

[LauraLynn]

Rider's dad is CH Hearthsides Season Ticket and his mom is Laurell's Two For Tea. He was born in May of 2003. How did you guessw that was his dad out of the blue Jo Ellen? I am curious! :confused: ;) I understand his dad was in Michigan and is now deceased :(

[CaGolden]

Cassie is not related to anyone here that I can see but I just have to tell this story :) We brought Cassie home on Sunday. The previous owners only had her for 4 days and they had to give her up because they were moving and couldn't take her. They got her from a breeder. On Monday we went to Petsmart to get her shots and ran into another couple with a puppy around the same age. We started talking and found out that they were born on the same day. We asked what his dad and mom's names were and found out that they were brother and sister. We just couldn't believe we ran into them. They've had their puppy longer since the breeder originally was keeping Cassie to breed her. She seemed very excited to see him. I'm not sure if its just that she is very playful or if she remembered him.

[Jo Ellen]

From someone who recognized a striking resemblence ...

"I have Hearthside's Full Throttle AKA Speedy and he looks IDENTICLE to her Rider. She mentioned in her post that Rider's Father was at Westminster last year...and Sport was. I also knew that hearthside has some of the Laurell lines. So I just took a stab at it. Rider's Father Sport and Speedy's Mother Vagas Hearthsides Against All Odds share a mother AM/CAN CH Eirene's Love or Magic. So Rider and Sport have the same grandmother. I had not heard that Sport had died but I can find out. I could probably get a picture of him too if she would like one."

Small world :003

I would really love to get the two of you in touch with one another since you obviously have so much in common! But how can I do that? We can't PM, e-mail one another, give our e-mail addresses. Why is this ??? Is this going to change anytime soon ???

[GoldenLady]

I'm really sorry to hear that Sport died.... He was such a young dog (born November, 2000; his death isn't listed on k9data yet). :( :( :(

[LauraLynn]

From someone who recognized a striking resemblence ...

"I have Hearthside's Full Throttle AKA Speedy and he looks IDENTICLE to her Rider. She mentioned in her post that Rider's Father was at Westminster last year...and Sport was. I also knew that hearthside has some of the Laurell lines. So I just took a stab at it. Rider's Father Sport and Speedy's Mother Vagas Hearthsides Against All Odds share a mother AM/CAN CH Eirene's Love or Magic. So Rider and Sport have the same grandmother. I had not heard that Sport had died but I can find out. I could probably get a picture of him too if she would like one."

Small world :003

I would really love to get the two of you in touch with one another since you obviously have so much in common! But how can I do that? We can't PM, e-mail one another, give our e-mail addresses. Why is this ??? Is this going to change anytime soon ???

WOW - that is awesome Jo Ellen, thanks so much for posting this and I would LOVE to get in touch with this person and swap stories! Darn it, I hope PM'ing or e-mail is allowed again soon too as we cannot post our e-mails on this board publicly. :( Please let this person know that I appreciate all of this info. and thank you too for telling me, Jo Ellen! :happy2 VERY small world!

Oh and tell her/him that I know Sport passed from talking to Laura Kling - she is the one who told us when we requested pics of him. If there is a pic of Sport anywhere, I would LOVE to see him! I never have. I have tried locating Ann Grundy for one but no luck. Rider's full name is 'Laurell's Ticket To Ride' just FYI also.

[LauraLynn]

I'm really sorry to hear that Sport died.... He was such a young dog (born November, 2000; his death isn't listed on k9data yet). :( :( :(

Yes, me too, I will never meet him now. Apparently he was hit by a car in a fluke accident. :(

[diiorio]

If it is a sir that had semen shipped then he can be in alot of pedigrees.

If you have Gold-rush anything then they are from a Kennel here in NJ. A very popular old gold rush name Was Gold-rush Success, but he would be further back in everyone's pedigrees.

Mine is alot different and come from a distent line. Now depending how far your pedigree goes back, alot of owners with light and cream goldnes may see some English/European champions. Several sired a large stock in the U.S.

[diiorio]

Here are a few other older Gold-rush names that I see in my old girls pedigree.

Ch. Copper Lee Gold Rush Apollo
Crumme K's Gold-rush Barney CD

Gold-Rush Barnegat Breeze

Gold Rush Success(sire)

[diiorio]

For $10.00 USD each I pulled the pedigree onlien for my pups parents. 5 generation. If you want ot go back further you can enter the ending dogs (primaries) and pull another 5 generations.

She has alto of GOld RUsh in her as well, including CH Gold-Rush Riki Tiki Tavi as her great grandparents (father's, Fahter's mother).

Fathers side:

Sanmann's Rush To A Star
Radiant Sun Pot Of Gold

Gold-Rush Riki Tiki Tavi
Rachael Radiant Sun
Cloverdale Ivy League
Sanmann's Stage Struck


Sunjoies ****n Of Monogram
Gold-Rush Sidra Sweet Brownie
Bennington Of Sherwood
Peaches And Cream XXXI
Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster
Cloverdale Angelica
Laurell's Go For Broke
Birnam Wood's Radcliffe Rush

and so on

many are champions if not most. Some can comapre if they have any of these i nthere lines. This is the fathers side only.

THe godo thing is, with the AKC onlien research, you can right click and save the fiel as an html doc, and put it on the puppies website.

Can also cut and paste pedigreee into a word doc.

[diiorio]

CH Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder
SF324497 01-90
Golden
OFA26F

(You are aware it is a female champion right. SHe was i nthe hall of fame).

3 generations back on my puppies mother's side. so for original poster, yep!
Yonders parents are:

CH Signature's Sound Barrier
SE941679 07-88
Golden
OFA26F

CH Asterling's Wingmaster
SE769825 10-88
Golden
OFA24G

[kinseysmom]

CH Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster (father's side)

There's also Goldrush's Contender (mother's side) but I realize he's not a relative.

And.....I'm too dizzy to read the rest. :D

[Chillers]

Hi Diiorio--

Sounds like you've been very busy lately...it's always interesting to be involved in research!

I'm just a little confused...I thought Ch. Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder was a male, call name "James" He's in Tucker pedigree five generations back...?


Hope everyone's enjoying nice weather like we are here in NH!

Chillers and her boy Tucker

[GoldenLady]

For Golden pedigrees I like to use k9data (http://www.k9data.com); it too offers 5-generation pedigrees, with hip and longevity data (unfortunately this data is very limited at this time, but will continue to fill in over time, as there are people who are very dedicated to this site and its accuracy). This site is user based, and therefore not fully complete, as dogs and pedigrees are added to it every day - but I find it's quite comprehensive for dogs with show and performance backgrounds. You can look up siblings and offspring of any dog that's in the site (again this info is not complete, but is still interesting, and for some dogs/litters it is pretty well filled in), and therefore find out about lots of dogs that are related to yours. :happy2 You can also go further back in the pedigrees by clicking on the dogs 5 generations back. Great site!!

GoldenLady :)

[GoldenLady]

I'm just a little confused...I thought Ch. Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder was a male, call name "James" He's in Tucker pedigree five generations back...?


Yes, Ch. Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder was indeed a male, and a top-winning show dog. :cool:

GoldenLady :)

[diiorio]

YOu know I got confused becuase AUtumn's pedigree is so long I didn't read the slot correctly, yes he was a male. I take it males are still top then dam under that. So that woudl put yonder i nthe male slot.

I'm abotu to psot a pedigree online.

[diiorio]

Hi. Am looking at Kinsey's pedigree. I see an Asterling but it's CH Asterling's Just Buster Loose CD..oh wait, there's another Asterling....CH Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster. I don't have the pedigree scanned and downloaded yet. Kinsey has Malagold, Asterling and Whirlwind lines. There's also Pekay, Libra and others. I don't understand all the initials. She is line bred, that much I've figured out. ;)
Her kennel name is Skymeadow's Emerald Isle. That's because she was kelly green when she was born. The placenta was green. Sounds disgusting, doesn't it? :roll2

CH Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster
SE219851 05-87
Golden
OFA25G

In Autumn's line, 4 back from mothers side.
Autumns page (http://www.sacredflute.com/puppy)

[GldnParis]

Paris doesn't have Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder in her pedigree but she has Asterling's Buster Keaton. Paris is heavily line-bred on Sunshinehill's Natl. Cowboy. Do any of your fur kids have Cowboy in their pedigree?

Lisa

[Andi]

My Porter had Buster Keaton on both his sire and dam's side and also had Wild Blue Yonder on his dam's side.

Cooper has both too....a few generations back but they are both there.

[GoldenJoy]

Can we post a link to their pedigree?

Tucker has Asterling's Buster Keaton in his pedigree. Shadow doesn't. But they both have Gold Rush Charlie and Teddy in their line.

The well bred Golden ~ Tucker
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=151015

My poor Shadow ~
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=150370

[Andi]

Here's Porter's....http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=157438

You have to click on either of his parents to get a more far reaching pedigree and to see the dogs we discussed.

Here's Cooper's....http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=153257

[CaynCher]

Mine have Asterling, Malagold, and Goldrush in their lines. :dogbark :reddogx

[GoldenJoy]

Mine have Asterling, Malagold, and Goldrush in their lines. :dogbark :reddogx

Then we're probably in-laws....

[CaynCher]

:dogbark :reddogx Yes ours are related & I notice that Andi's deceased dog, Porter, had some of the same dogs in Cayenne's line & many of them go back to Int.Ch. Gold Coast Here Comes the Sun (Sunny). He seems to be in many of the Golden pedigrees. :dogbark :reddogx

[GoldenLady]

:dogbark :reddogx Yes ours are related & I notice that Andi's deceased dog, Porter, had some of the same dogs in Cayenne's line & many of them go back to Int.Ch. Gold Coast Here Comes the Sun (Sunny). He seems to be in many of the Golden pedigrees. :dogbark :reddogx

Yes, you're right about Sunny - he is in lots of Golden pedigrees, and he was also the sire of Aruba (Am-Can Ch. Amberac's Asterling Aruba OD, SDHF), who produced many outstanding dogs, including the famous "Buster" litter. The list of her offspring is truly remarkable; you can see the ones that are in k9data here (http://www.k9data.com/offspring.asp?ID=59) .

Both of my Goldens have Sunny behind them, albeit 5 generations back; since the two of them are really from totally different lines, that's as close as they get. My younger boy is a great-grandson of both Dust (Ch Asterling Jamaica Verdict) and Tristan (Ch Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster).

Andi, I see that Porter's father, Spencer, is also Cooper's great-grandfather. So your two boys are/were from the same family! :cool:

GoldenLady :)

[suzysues]

Here is Alfie's (http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=175331). His registered name is Billy Smart. I am new to all this, so if anyone spots a realtionship please let me know. I was excited to find quite a few champoans in there!! :029 Includeding the very impressive British Champion Ritzilyn Cockney Robin (http://www.shoal.net.au/~vmolnar/crobin.htm)

[Patience is golden]

suzysues, I looked at Alfies extended pedigree and saw the prefixes Sandusky and sansue, these are also in Megs extended pedigree! Now I know that doesn't mean that they are related at all but it just excited me that being so far away (Me -Australia) there may be some sort of connection! I know that my girl Meg is a "cousin" (same grandsire- Sandusky Klammer Aust Ch, imported from UK) of golden boobalas Jessie, and I suspect that she may be related to Doreens puppy!

[doreen]

As you know im still waiting on my papers .

My pup came from wysiwygkennels.

He has American lines. from the web site i can see his pedigree.

Father Kingsgold special Request (A I)

AM CH Boitanos Band on the run to Abelard .

AM CH Chuckanuts Brasstime

Aust CH Corner stones california Tan Imp U.S.A

This is on the fathers side

[Patience is golden]

My pup came from wysiwygkennels.

Father Kingsgold special Request (A I)


Meg has Wysiwyg Might n Power in her lines, and Melsheen Royal Serenade so it would be interesting to see if these are in your baby's Dams line

[suzysues]

suzysues, I looked at Alfies extended pedigree and saw the prefixes Sandusky and sansue, these are also in Megs extended pedigree! Now I know that doesn't mean that they are related at all but it just excited me that being so far away (Me -Australia) there may be some sort of connection! I know that my girl Meg is a "cousin" (same grandsire- Sandusky Klammer Aust Ch, imported from UK) of golden boobalas Jessie, and I suspect that she may be related to Doreens puppy!

:029 Yes I noticed the lines were connected to Australia too. It also connected to Germany, but I started to loose it and forget where I had started!! :rolleyes:

[pixiepurls]

My new pup has
Am. CH. Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster OS SDHF in her pedigree, geat g'ma

[GoldenParadise]

I see a lot of show Goldens. Does anybody have any FT Goldens in their dog's pedigree?

To start, how about:

GRCC Hall of Fame, FTCH AFTCH Shurmark's Split Decision Am. MH ***OS Can. FDHF (11/7/1986-6/25/2002)

Call name: Sprint

[bauersmom]

My boy has "wild blue yonder" in his pedigree, a few generations back. That's amazing. I bought Bauer from a breeder in Maine. He's a love. His dad is Klaasem's Hubba Hubba Hubba. That's pretty amazing.
Lori

[kinseysmom]

I have to laugh...am rereading this thread and that puppydoggy is one busy little guy. I mean......he's everywhere!! :D
Also, in rereading this thread, I happened to click on Kinsey's pedigree, sire and dam and our breeder updated things. I suppose that's normal as dogs acquire more titles etc. It is more impressive when it's updated. lolol

[Lee]

I was reading this thread and realized that Zoe's grandpa is also Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder--they must have made a mint from his stud fees! ;) Another Grandfather is CH Rush Hill's Haagen-Dazs, and grndmothers-CH Thornfield Step Aside and CH Freedom's Miss Fit. Does anyone else have these lines? It seems that her back pedigree is pretty varied with alot of different kennel names, (hopefully that is a good thing!), with more Asterling and Amberac further back. Also Meadowpond-Sugarbear Hondo--which I like since we live in Michigan, and their kennel is located here. I wonder if she has any relatives out there?

[Marty]

I was reading this thread and realized that Zoe's grandpa is also Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder--they must have made a mint from his stud fees! ;) Another Grandfather is CH Rush Hill's Haagen-Dazs, and grndmothers-CH Thornfield Step Aside and CH Freedom's Miss Fit. Does anyone else have these lines? It seems that her back pedigree is pretty varied with alot of different kennel names, (hopefully that is a good thing!), with more Asterling and Amberac further back. Also Meadowpond-Sugarbear Hondo--which I like since we live in Michigan, and their kennel is located here. I wonder if she has any relatives out there?

Well she sure does!!.....Ty's granddad(on his mom's side) was also Ch Rush Hill's Haagen-Dazs(call name Kirby) Kirby is the No. 1 Specialty Winning Golden Retriever of all times. He has sired 100 Champions....He was one special Golden!! :reddogx He passed away in 2000, I believe at the age of 11.
You can find more about him at this website...www.rushhill.com He'll be the one on the opening page and has a sub-website under "Kirby" on the left hand side....He will make you proud that your pup has him in his pedigree....the Asterling is also in Ty's pedigree...also a good line :029 Here is a picture of "My Beau Ty"(AKC name) He would have made his grandpa proud!!

[Lee]

Marty-I was floored by the pic of your dog--he looks so much like Zoe, they could be litter-mates! Love the "Noble Dog" look that they get sometimes. Thanks for the info on "Kirby"--he sounds like a great dog to base a breeding program on--looks, AND Golden temperament! :dogbark
Pixiepurls--Zoe's great,great grandmother (?) is Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster. I was wondering--Kirby looks like a darker golden--are both your dogs light gold or darker? I would add a pic of Zoe if I could figure out how :rolleyes:

[GoldenLady]

Marty-I was floored by the pic of your dog--he looks so much like Zoe, they could be litter-mates! Love the "Noble Dog" look that they get sometimes. Thanks for the info on "Kirby"--he sounds like a great dog to base a breeding program on--looks, AND Golden temperament! :dogbark
Pixiepurls--Zoe's great,great grandmother (?) is Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster. I was wondering--Kirby looks like a darker golden--are both your dogs light gold or darker? I would add a pic of Zoe if I could figure out how :rolleyes:

Yes, Kirby was a FABULOUS dog - I did a ton of research on him and his lines before getting my Kirby grandson, and I couldn't be more pleased. In addition to his looks and temperament, and the strength of what he produces in both of those aspects, I was also impressed with Kirby's working ability - he had titles in so many different areas, and obviously had brains as well, to go along with his other assets. :)

On the subject of colour, Kirby was indeed a dark Golden - about as red as they come - and a lot of dogs descended from him are more of a reddish gold as well; however, my boy is medium gold, as are all his littermates. Given the pedigree (both parents were reddish gold), we were expecting the pups to be on the darker side as well, but the whole litter turned out "blond", i.e. very light as puppies, but you could tell they'd all be medium gold as adults. Genetics can truly be fascinating.

GoldenLady :)

P.S. Going back to the subject of Tristan (Asterling's Go Getm Gangbuster), he is also my boy's great-grandfather.

[Lee]

Goldenlady-Isn't genetics a glorious mystery? From red to blonde in a generation! One of Kirby's traits that noticed in the web site was that he had a "typy" Golden personality--intelligent with a hint of mischief :dogbark It doesn't matter if you are good looking if your personality is lacking ;)

[GoldenLady]

Goldenlady-Isn't genetics a glorious mystery? From red to blonde in a generation! One of Kirby's traits that noticed in the web site was that he had a "typy" Golden personality--intelligent with a hint of mischief :dogbark It doesn't matter if you are good looking if your personality is lacking ;)

Absolutely! And (just in case I haven't glorified Kirby enough in my previous post(s) ;)) possibly the very best thing about him is his knack of passing on that wonderful Golden temperament to his descendents. I'd say that has to be one of the most valuable traits any Golden used for breeding could possess. :happy2

GoldenLady :)

[Marty]

Absolutely! And (just in case I haven't glorified Kirby enough in my previous post(s) ;)) possibly the very best thing about him is his knack of passing on that wonderful Golden temperament to his descendents. I'd say that has to be one of the most valuable traits any Golden used for breeding could possess. :happy2

GoldenLady :)

Golden Lady....I love hearing you "brag" ;) about Kirby....because Ty has all of his Granddaddy's wonderful traits(I think... :laugh2 )....we were noticing just the other day that Ty seemed to be getting more reddish gold as he has gotten older...he's now 21 months old! I had noticed that also when I saw pictures of "Kirby" on the website!! Whadda Dog :reddogx

[GoldenLady]

Golden Lady....I love hearing you "brag" ;) about Kirby....because Ty has all of his Granddaddy's wonderful traits(I think... :laugh2 )....we were noticing just the other day that Ty seemed to be getting more reddish gold as he has gotten older...he's now 21 months old! I had noticed that also when I saw pictures of "Kirby" on the website!! Whadda Dog :reddogx

Hi Marty - glad to see you don't mind my bragging. :cool: Yes, Kirby was a *very* red Golden - as red as they come. You'll probably notice Ty's coat gradually darkening until he's about 3-4 years of age, though he won't ever be as red as Kirby. BTW, I saw some of Ty's pics in your photo album on the site; will have to have look further when I get a moment. :happy2

GoldenLady :)

[Arielle]

This has been fascinating! While I don't know much of Mollies pedigree (she was a rescue though I have her papers, I haven't been able to find anything abouther heritage), my beloved Sumner who went to the bridge last year is at least Ty's cousin.

But at looking at his full pedigree in from of me (or as full back as they go anyhow. LOL) he has Gold Rush's great teddy bear several times over, as well as several asterlings (that sounds funny) Go get m gangbuster is great grandfather on Sumners fathers side and grandfather on his mothers side. LOL Asterling aruba also on both sides as great on one side and great great on another.

So, any relatives? :) I wish I could find a puppy related to Sumner on his fathers side...I believe his hemangio came from his mothers side, she passed at 6. :( Sumner was 9. :(

here is a pic of my Sumner if I can do this right (after sticking his face in the snow as always when it snowed!). he was truly my heart dog, I miss him too much for words!:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/Luna8/snowbaby.jpg

[Legend's Mom]

Summer (nice name by the way, thats mine too) Looks SO MUCH LIKE KIRBY (hageen dazs) its unbelievable!! What a beautiful girl!

[Arielle]

thanks! Actually it's SumNer (though you aren't the first to call him sumMer and he never minded. LOL) he was named after Sting of the Police who's real name is Gordon Sumner. and He's a He. :)

I have seen pics of Kirby though no real close up ones.

I have to upload some pics of Sumner to the gallery, I always loved 9still do) to show him off. Poor Mollie is still in her brothers shadow, he was such an overpowering presence, an old soul, but we love her too. She's a very pretty girl. :)

[GoldenJoy]

If you look at Tucker's 5 generation pedigree, your Sumner and he share some ancestors.

http://www.k9data.com/fivegen.asp?ID=151015

[Jilly]

Anyone else out there got a descendant of Camrose Fidelio of Davern orn Dorlyn Duky Dancer ? My old boy Ben was one of their offspring. He died at the ripe old age of 16.

[Arielle]

Goldenjoy, yep yep, that makes them what, third cousins? or something? LOL

[GoldenJoy]

Shadow has GR Teddy and Charlie in his line, too. I see Cloverdale. Is that the Kennel here in CT? Sounds very familiar. I went back and looked. It is Cloverdale located in CT. I know someone who has a GR from this kennel.

[Legend's Mom]

OOPS Arielle, im so sorry for messing up that much, i guess it just looks so much like my name i assumed (you know what they say when you assume...HEHE) HE is a very beautiful boy and really does look a lot like Kirby (one of my favorites) SORRY AGAIN, i know how annoying that can be... :p

[Arielle]

no, not annoying at all! :) banana

[GoForTheGold]

Nice pedigree. :dogbark

Paris doesn't have Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder in her pedigree but she has Asterling's Buster Keaton. Paris is heavily line-bred on Sunshinehill's Natl. Cowboy. Do any of your fur kids have Cowboy in their pedigree?

Lisa

[GoldenBoys]

Does anyone have Okeechobee in their lines? Adam's pedigree is less than impressive, but he does have some superstars in there. ;)

http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=132453

[all for goldens]

I just recieved Callie's pedigree. I must admit I was not expecting much because I did not do enough research when I bought her. Her parents are not champions. Much to my surprise she has Rush Hills Kirby (hageen dasz) in her blood. He was her great, great grandfather and he sired her great grandfather who was a champion as well. This is on Callie's dad's side and everyone on that side is champions. Talk about a surprise.

This is kind of exciting because her dad was BEAUTIFUL and she looks so much like him and now I know why she is so pretty.

[Angie]

i have very little knowledge of how to read a pedigree tree although i have my pups. my breeder gave me it when i picked him up. is anyone related to my pup? we come from the majesty golden pedigree. (dont even know if im asking this properly)

[eggo]

after looking at frosty's pedigree I saw that before pekay's taylor's pride I saw Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder's name! I was surprised

[Skokie]

Try here:

http://www.k9data.com/


My Muskoka's parents/sister are listed there. Who enters this information? Am I allowed to add Muskoka? Or does the breeder do that? Muskoka is our family companion and I don't show her. She could be shown though, she has those qualities. Just wondering who enters the information on there.

[Seamus' Mom]

My first beloved golden, Murphy (sadly gone now) was a great-granddaughter of BISS Am. Ch. Asterling Go Getm Gangbuster (aka Tristan, if I remember correctly). I even got to meet him when I picked her up. He was a very handsome dog, for sure!

She also had Sunshine Hill's Nat'l Cowboy in her pedigree.

So, it sounds like a lot of our dogs are related after all...

Seamus and my second golden, Casey (also at the Bridge) were both rescues...so, who knows where they came from. Sometimes I think Seamus has a little "Tasmanian Devil" in him, though. ;)

[summer89]

hello there i have Ch Asterling's Wild blue younder in my male pedigree and also i do have . back 5 th generation. :485

[freddiesmum]

Here is Freddie. Master Warrior. We are in the uk. He is related in some way to Billy Smart. Freddies Grandad is Giblyng Guardsman. Who is Billy Smarts great grandad. Billy Smart looks like Freddie:reddogx :029

http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=168064

[DrummerBoys]

I just thought I'd let you guys know Cooper's nickname. My son started calling him Mister Love. Now we've all been using it. So cute, because he's a big bunch of love.

[Hali's Mom]

I agree, I think that a lot of them will have relatives somewhere in their pedigree. Am./Can.CH Asterling's Wild Blue Younder OS SDHF is one of Honey's great-great grandfathers. I am wonderfing if any other dogs here have either of Honey's grandfathers in their pedigree? They are: Ch Amberac Yer Chips R Takin SDHF (#1 golden in U.S.-2001) and Ch. Amberac Ramala Surfurr OS, SDHF (#2 golden in U.S.-'97 & '98) Any one related to them?


Sarah :)
Dichi Hunny Acre Woods, CGC, TDI, TT "Honey"
Hali's Dad was Ramala Surfurr :485

[Hali's Mom]

I do have Asterling's Wild Blue Yonder!! :048 I'm actually really surprised. I almost didn't look at all. I'm thinking: I'm way down here in south Louisiana, what would I possibly have in common? But hey, what do I know. I know I got Cassidy from a show breeder so I guess we all have something in common after all. We're all FUR FAMILY!!!

I actually have quite a few dogs from the "Asterling" line in my pedigree.

Hunnybug: I do have one dog from the same kennel (I think :confused: ) but it's not either that you named. Its Am-Can Ch. Amberac's Asterling Aruba (OS/SDHF) but its like 4 generations back on the pedigree.Asterling Aruba was a TOP producer so that name will be alot of pedigrees :029

[Hali's Mom]

Anyone have any of the Laurell dogs in their pedigree?
We do, Laurell's Going Hollywood,then Laurell's Final Play,then Laurell's Yats of Luck on Hali's father's side. Hollywood being his father :reddogx and on her mother's side, he was her grandfather

[Regal101]

ok, so now its bothering me. i can't find copper's pedigree certificate. and i know you can order another, but i don't want to, i want to find it. lol. but i am not sure on titles, or even if her parents had them i have pictures of her parents, and they were owned by the same breeder. copper was one of twelve. and it is actually an interesting story. the 6 girls were born first then the 6 boys. funny right? i say thats alot of puppybirth. but anyway, so i know there are alot of copper's siblings out there. but copper-rose's akc names is "Golden Copper Rose". we were more creative with daisy-blue's. her's is "Gardens of Daisy's Spotted with Blue". but, the papillon breeder we got her from is family. back to copper, i think her dads name was "Earl's Golden Laddie" and her mothers was "Amber Waves of Gold" But like i said, not sure. So until i find the papers, because if they had titles, or i am wrong, the site won't show them. So does anyone have and idea of these names? Or past extensions of these dogs?

[BritmoreGoldens]

Here is Alfie's (http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=175331). His registered name is Billy Smart. I am new to all this, so if anyone spots a realtionship please let me know. I was excited to find quite a few champoans in there!! :029 Includeding the very impressive British Champion Ritzilyn Cockney Robin (http://www.shoal.net.au/~vmolnar/crobin.htm)
Hi Suzysues....I looked at your Billy Smarts pedigree and saw several relations to my Trewater Wild Ruby (Ruby)! Many Ritzilyn dogs! I brought her over here to the USA from England last October! I just love the English Goldens! Here is a link to Rubys Pedigree...
http://k9data.com/fivegen.asp?ID=230796
Andrea

[CanadianGolden]

There are many "Amber Waves Of Gold" registered with the AKC. If you make a (free) AKC store account, you can use this site to search for any dog:

http://www.akc.org/store/reports/dog/index.cfm?report_cde=CMPREC&report_category_cde=DOG

Just login and then go to store and click on Points and Awards and it will let you search.

[Carol Hollen]

That was so interesting to look up Fluke's lineage like that. The strangest thing though.....when I went to the search site provided.....

http://www.k9data.com

they are using Fluke's great, great, great, great (that's 4!!!!) grandfathers' name as an example of what to put in to search. I thought I was seeing things at first! :eek:

His name was Cummings' Gold-Rush Charlie. A stunning fellow but so red compared to my baby Fluke!

I'm back here editing my comment to ask a rather serious question........When I keep going back in time tracing all back to the UK it seems I always end up with the same names. This seems like a bad thing to me? I am truly ignorant on this subject so can someone confirm my thoughts. Seems to me there would have been inbreeding if this was the case. I searched both Mother and Father's lines. They should not end up at the same stopping point way back in late 1800's right?

[CaynCher]

I am not an expert on breeding but I would think that all goldens should be able to be traced back to the original pair of Goldens who started the breed if you could go back far enough. As far as linebreeding, breeders do it as the same dogs could be listed on both the Sire & Dam's pedigree. Cayenne has Int.Ch Gold Coast Here Comes the Sun on both Sire/Dam side.

:dogbark :reddogx

[Seamus' Mom]

His name was Cummings' Gold-Rush Charlie. A stunning fellow but so red compared to my baby Fluke!

Gold-Rush Charlie is one of the most (if not the most) famous golden retriever show dogs of all time. He is credited with changing the breed in the direction of what we see today in the show ring. As a result, he was quite sought after as a stud dog. You'd be hard-pressed to find a well-bred golden that didn't have Charlie way back in his/her lineage somewhere.

[Carol Hollen]

that is very interesting. I'm going to look him up to see if I can read up on him. Thanks for that information. I did not even register Fluke or my maltese who is two and full bred. I just couldn't think of a good enough reason since he is a pet who will be neutered and who will never be entered to show.

I just think it is weird that when I follow both of Flukes parents (I just did the grandfather lines so fare of each ~ in other words went to Flukes grandfather, then his grandfather and so on.....then did the mom's grandfather and so on) both sire and dam, that I end up with at least three of the very same dogs in the end till "unknown"). I will have to look into this whole subject more so that I can understand better. I guess in a way I'm not looking at the whole picture.

Carol

[flirtsmom]

I know this is an old thread but I am new here and was skimming through it.
Here are my girls pedigree

SunnyRose
Roses in Sunshine
sire: Malagold Against All Odds (pointed) - Dakota
Dam: Malagold Strike A pose - Flirt

Jasmine
Sire: Am./Can. Ch. Amberac Dichi Face The Odds - Gambler
Dam: Dichi Simply The Best (pointed) - Jordan

Flirtsmom

[flirtsmom]

I posted another post after this 'cause I forgot to add Jasmine's registered name. its Dichi's all That Jazz.
Flirtsmom

[roadie]

Here's a coincidence, the father of our last Golden (Roadie) was Asterlings Wild Blue Yonder. We got her in Wisconsin. When I read our new pup's pedigree (Skooter), Wild Blue Yonder, a.k.a James, is her great grandfather. We got Skooter in Denver. I was so thrilled when I saw that :029 . Now we have a little bit of Roadie still with us!

[flirtsmom]

Hey Scooter's Mom! Hi There!

Our Jasmine's great grandfather is James and my daughter's Golden, Mason has James for his grandfather. A lot of Jame's semen was taken and frozen and sent all over the worls so he has many, many, many offspring! Have you ever seen James? I used to watch James at the dog shows when I was showing my Dakota. James was THE SHOW DOG! When he won his handler/owner would give James the ribbon and he would literally prance around the ring with the ribbon in his mouth! He LOVED the applause and yells of the crowd. He was gorgeous! Unfortunately, he dropped dead of a heart anomalie I think at the age or 8 or 9.

flirtsmom

[roadie]

flirtsmom: I never saw James in person, but a friend of mine just happened to have the video tape of him at Westminster (we still have it). He was gorgeous!

[flirtsmom]

Oh, he was such a treat to watch! I was sooooo jealous - I wanted a dog like him!

Flirtsmom

[roadie]

Flirtsmom: Do you know when he passed away? Wish I could have seen him in person! He was just beautiful on the video. So majestic! Where did you see him? Where did he live? Geez! Was that enough questions for you?? :rolleyes:

[Cascherman]

Does anyone have Okeechobee in their lines? Adam's pedigree is less than impressive, but he does have some superstars in there. ;)
http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=132453

Natasha has Okeechobee in her line on the sire's side
Grandparents
BISS Ch. Okeechobee Riverdell Gobin

Greatgrandparents
Okeechobee Hy-Tyme Echo and
BISS Ch Okeechobee Everything Earnest.

[Jersey's Mom]

Cascherman: Ernie is my boy's great-great-great grandsire. We have a number of other Okeechobee dogs in there too. I don't know if you're involved in K9-data, but if you want to check out the line:


http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=208456

Julie and Jersey

[Cascherman]

Cascherman: Ernie is my boy's great-great-great grandsire. We have a number of other Okeechobee dogs in there too. I don't know if you're involved in K9-data, but if you want to check out the line:


http://www.k9data.com/pedigree.asp?ID=208456

Julie and Jersey

Sorry it took so long for me to get back to you. I've had my hands full with the puppies. I've been working on their pedigree and thought it would be a good time to click on the link that you sent.

Natasha is decended from a union of Ch Okeechobe Everything Ernest and Okeechobee's Hy-Tyme Echo. That litter was welped 12-24-1990.

Natasha's PUPPIES have another common link with Jersey...on their Sire's side Great, Great, Grandsires include Ch Tangeloft Odds on Pebwin, Ch. Asterling's Buster Keaton, Ch Nautilus Twin-Beau-D Diamond, and Great Great Granddam Ch Faera's Puppy Kidd .
And as a Great Gradsire we have Ch Faera's Dentiny Kodiak Kidd.

If you are interested you can view the full pedigree for Natasha's puppies by going to this site

http://web.mac.com/jccjr/Puppy_Pages/Welcome.html

[gottaBgolden]

Hi all, Just found this site a couple of weeks ago and just found this thread this morning. I am amazed at how many of us are "related". Our new baby Lucy and our late Casey(who are from the same father 6 years separated) have so many of the same ancestors here. Too name a few: The Asterlings
The Laurells
The Faeras
The Pekays
I was wordering if anyone here have any ties to Lucy more recent, her father is "Brynmar's Honeybrook Dakota" and her mother is "Honeybrook Cause for Applause"
Grandparents are: "Sunset-Ducat Seminole Gold"
"Brymar's Priscilla"
"Tuxedo's Sonic Levitation"
"Skyheavens Angel in the Wind"

Just wondering!!

[DebsDog]

I enjoyed reading this thread as I am picking up my new puppy in a few weeks. He is a son of James concieved via artificial insemination. The puppies were born 10 years to the day of his death. I would love to see the old film of James in the show ring. Do you know how I might get a copy? I feel very privilaged to be getting a dog of such a great champion.

[lhuemmer]

I just came across this thread and went back and checked on my baby's pedigree. Now I am really impressed with the breeder. At least 75% are champions with the names I have seen here, including James and Buster Keaton as well as others. If you go onto her website, windyridgesgoldens.com and click on litter info, then an Mom or dads name and the word at the bottome of the site, Pedigree, it will take you back to the early 1900's and has many of the names I saw mentioned. I find it fascinating that they can be followed back that far. It goes back to the UK and Tweedmouth.
Does anyone have a close relative to my Orla?