Looking for smaller field golden

[Juliet22308]

We are looking to bring a Golden into our family later this year. Friends have a wonderful Golden who is on the small side for a male. He's what I understand is the field type of golden rather than the show type (reddish color, sleeker body). Does anyone know of a breeder that is specializing in the smaller size? Thanks a lot.
Juliet :reddogx

[Regal101]

Copper was a feildy, but you can't specialize in feildies the way you can with colors. (english cream, dark red, blonde, ect.) And you won't know its a feildy till its a few months to a year old, when they are at full size and full feather. Sorry! But, check shelters- they may have one or two that would love a good home!

[konabear]

We have a field red, but it was by chance she ended up being small. Not sure people breed for this specific type (red AND small), but we always have lots of goldens up for adoption that are red and on the smaller scale. Our GR is only 45lbs.

[Brandy and Charlie's Mom]

Our fieldy is very tall and a very lean 65 pounds. Guess I'm no help in your search! :)

[CanadianGolden]

Copper was a feildy, but you can't specialize in feildies the way you can with colors. (english cream, dark red, blonde, ect.) And you won't know its a feildy till its a few months to a year old, when they are at full size and full feather. Sorry! But, check shelters- they may have one or two that would love a good home!


This isn't true at all. A lot of a puppy's appearance can be predicted from looking at his parents.

For breeders for field-type Goldens, try Topbrass Kennel.
http://www.topbrass-retrievers.com/

[Seamus' Mom]

Seamus is more of a "fieldy"...but, he's 73 lbs.

It seems to me that the Rescue groups (at least in my area) seem to have Fieldies more often than Conformation types.

[Regal101]

This isn't true at all. A lot of a puppy's appearance can be predicted from looking at his parents.

For breeders for field-type Goldens, try Topbrass Kennel.
http://www.topbrass-retrievers.com/


No, actually i am right. You can't promise a feild type. Its not possible. You can breed two dark reds and get blondes. Its a recessive gene.

[CanadianGolden]

Sigh. A field type is a "type" not a color. Field goldens (ie Goldens who are bred primarily for field work and not the breed ring) are *generally small, light boned, high drive, and dark red in color. In fact, I don't know that I've ever seen a very light field dog. I don't know the details of color genetics, but a field dog is not a dark red dog. A field dog is a dog from lines bred for the field. Please fully educate yourself before spreading false information.

ETA: I just looked up some basics of coat color. Firstly, there appears to have been very little research done on the variations of Golden coat color genetics, probably because most or all of the colors are acceptable for the breed (with the exception, obviously, of white). The red gene is recessive. However, a recessive red will override whatever is at the A locus to produce a red dog. If you breed two dogs who are red, and thus are both "ee" (recessive red), then all the puppies will have the "ee" genotype. That means that in all puppies, the "ee" will override whatever genotype is at the A locus, and a red dog will be produced. So in conclusion, breeding of two red dogs, who both must have ee genotype, will produce 100% red phenotype in offspring.

ETA Again: Regardless of the complications of the genetics above, red IS a recessive gene. That means that 2 red parents must both be rr (as opposed to Rr or RR). Therefore, the only combination their offspring can have is rr, since you can't make an R from an r. So either way, red parents = red offspring.

[Vickie]

Hi Juliet
Please pm me if you're stilllooking.I may have some help for you.
Yes,you can basically tell a field from a regular(show Golden) as a puppy if it carries mostly the filed golden in it.
They are usually darker ,even as a puppy, and have thinner bone and head structure.It's quite easy to tell in puppies and adults with an experienced eye.
Our Golden ,Meisha,whom I have posted many pictures on here is mostly field golden as are her parents.She does have some show goldens in her grandparents but the field has come out more in her. We adore her and they are a special class in themselves.
Good luck with whatever you do.
Vckie

[MonarchGoldens]

I am so interested in color genetics and have yet to find any solid information on what colors produce what, but I have seen litters with quite an assortment.

As for field vs. show... you can ABSOLUTELY tell them apart as puppies.


Aside from the color, they also have several physical differences.

Field Goldens have less coat, tends to be shorter and finer with less feathering. They are also finer boned (thinner legs and heads with more pointed muzzles) and longer in leg

Show Goldens have thicker, fluffier coats, blockier heads, tend to be a little shorter in leg heavier boned, and many have a more well proportioned look.

Also Goldens are not considered "coat-mature" or fully feathered until 2-3 years old, not a couple months or a year.

[Skokie]

I am so interested in color genetics and have yet to find any solid information on what colors produce what, but I have seen litters with quite an assortment.

As for field vs. show... you can ABSOLUTELY tell them apart as puppies (see the attached pictures).
http://C:\Users\owner\Pictures\juliepup.jpg

http://C:\Users\owner\Pictures\Fieldy with duck.jpg



Aside from the color, they also have several physical differences.

Field Goldens have less coat, tends to be shorter and finer with less feathering. They are also finer boned (thinner legs and heads with more pointed muzzles) and longer in leg

Show Goldens have thicker, fluffier coats, blockier heads, tend to be a little shorter in leg heavier boned, and many have a more well proportioned look.

Also Goldens are not considered "coat-mature" or fully feathered until 2-3 years old, not a couple months or a year.


I wasn't able to see the pictures you posted.

[MonarchGoldens]

Yea, I can't figure out how to get the picture to show up... any tips? I'm a dog person not a computer tech :)

[MonarchGoldens]

OK Hope this worked here are the pictures. Top is show puppy, bottom is field... As you can see there is a BIG difference between them (and they are close in age)

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[heather r]

Monarch Golden; Still don't see photos. Follow Johnwa's directions for e-mailing photos to him for resizing( In picture resize or upload pictures.)

I can't hang of resizing photos so he graciously does it ande-mails photo to me so I can add to a post.

Heather R:reddogx